Wasanelder Once

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  It saddens me to know that marriages break up because of religion and the blame, whose fault it is ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
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  a jehovah`s witness couple who have been married for many years and some with children of various ages and have been serving in their congregation meeting attendance, fs and bible studies with their children for many years .. and then one of them begins to have doubts about what they are being taught and what they actually are supposed to believe now that some changes have been made with nu-lite.. the doubts grow and then the the use of the internet to investigate further some of the claims of the gb/wt religion .. with the wealth of information available on the www it now becomes impossible to continue to be an active member of the jehovah`s witness religion without being an utter hypocrite .

  you no longer believe them anymore that they alone are gods chosen people in this day.. however your spouse does not see things the way you do not at all and after many months of arguments bickering threats the ultimatum is something like if you don`t believe what i believe that you have left jehovah we can`t live together anymore ,i want a divorce unless you come to your senses.. who is the one here breaking up the marriage ?.

  isn`t it in the majority of cases the jw who ends the marriage ?

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  Wasanelder Once

  I don't have the WT library on this computer but there was a series of articles about this in the early 1990's. If there is spiritual endangerment, ie: apostasy by your mate... You may separate and divorce, its up to you. It would not be recognized by the congregation as a scriptural divorce so one would not be free to remarry. No congregational restrictions would apply to the endangered mate. The same goes for extreme physical endangerment or failure to provide financially for the family if its the man.

  My brother and his wife divorced and neither was disfellowshipped. They lived separately until my brother married someone else 5 or so years later and he was therefore an adulterer though divorced by the state.

  Did you know if you are unscripturally divorced by law, you are still considered scripturally married by the congregation. When you sleep with your ex wife without remarrying her you have committed adultery. Relations before a divorce is final indicate acceptance of repentance by the harmed one .

  If an unscriptural divorce, the congregation views you still married in God's eyes but unmarried by Ceasar's law so any relations would be seen as fornication.That one blew my mind. What a clown town.
  
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  What do I do ?

  by jdash in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hey guys, this is my first time posting on here but lets get started.. so i'm a 17 year old boy who currently attends meetings at a congregation in indianapolis.

  i live with my grandparents, on my father's side, because my mother died in 2010. i been attending meetings since i was 10. my mother got into the religion but then got disfellowshiped.

  my dad is on and off, he currently just got reinstated.

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  Wasanelder Once

  Your parents know that they are legally responsible for your actions until you are 18 and are requiring you do as they say. That is your job for the next 11 months, to obey their rules. Even though your heart is not in it you need to provide the minimum of JWing while home. Sucks I know but its how it is. You can occupy yourself with games on the pad you use and kill the time. Service? Just let it roll and do a little.

  Make friends at school and do involve a counselor so long as they will respect your privacy. You may not need a verbal advocate yet, just a listening ear.

  All the best.
  
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  Caleb and Sophia Video Mashup to Hard Knock Life

  by Wild_Thing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i thought this video was pretty well done and mildly entertaining to watch.. on another note, i am really hoping some clever ex-jws will do their own animation series with caleb and sophia as young adults trying to leave the org.

  that would be awesome.

  caleb and sophia ... the ex-jw years.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lwoitxaa_u.

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  Absolutely brutal......

  Well done.
  
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  Can you top this example of JW corruption?

  by Mace.Bean in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  if you are a former jw elder, can you share any examples of corruption which you personally witnessed that were kept secret from the congregation?

  following is an account from a longtime elder named tommy who recently disassociated.. the minor daughter of a presiding elder in a west texas congregation committed fornication with a 19-year old baptized witness in her father’s home.

  the daughter had to confess to a judicial committee which included the aforementioned tommy.

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  I don't think I can top it. We had the son of the PO screwing around before he applied for Bethel and making the girl promise not to talk. After he was in NY for about a year she came forward and confessed because it was so bothering her conscious. The PO's son was a MS at Bethel by then. They bumped him out and he was eventually DF'd. Not so much corruption on the part of the congregation until you take into account that he was caught with porn and smoking pot before he left for NY and it never came out. The other three guys were all reproved. Just another day in paradise.
  
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  The Governing Body's credibility

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  given the proliferation of websites, youtube channels, books and other forms of media attention focusing on the extreme policies, teachings and scandals of the watchtower bible and tract society; where does this now leave the governing body's credibility?.

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  Let's face it, in Tiny town the big boys are untouchable.
  
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  Memories of my mom and fellow members who are no longer here

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  this photo makes me a little sad.

  it brings back memories of my mom who passed away last year.

  also,there are so many members who have passed away, it really hits home how life continues without this so called new system arriving ''any time soon.''.

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  She loved you too much to put your relationship in jeopardy. Real love wins out here!
  
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  Please Pray for me. Struggling very hard with an issue.

  by GodsWill1 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i’ve been struggling to end a long-term relationship of 12 years that needs to end.

  i came to the truth after i met him, and we never married.

  i want to get married, but this man i’m with in not for me.

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  Get a duck.
  
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  New to the truth

  by MatthewHewey in

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  i have been meeting with member's of the kingdom hall, and i have attended a few times now on sundays.

  i'd like to discuss experiences with this group since i'm new.

  so far, i love it.

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  Wasanelder Once

  Ask your good buddies in the congregation to let you research tattoos on their Watchtower DVD. I think your independent thinking will sink this whole JW sham for you. You are too clear headed to fall for their scam. Get non-JW viewpoints because they control the input of JW's and keep them ignorant of the reality of the world around them. Always ask "Why?" and don't accept fishy bullshit answers and you'll be ok.
  
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  After 10 years do they give up on you (hoping so)

  by Spiral in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i think i read somewhere that if you have been inactive for ten years plus, the elders will not try to meet with you and corner you to get you back "in".

  is that true?.

  i just realized that mr. spiral and i haven't gone to meetings or reported time for over ten years.

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  Wasanelder Once

  There is no set amount of years. Ten sounds so safe doesn't it? Well, it has more to do with how you are viewed in the community and in the congregation. If you are seen as acting like a JW or claiming to be one (either by the congregation or in the community) they have the thumbs up to come after you. It depends on who really "likes" you. Just don't seek any contact or respond to any contact no matter how long its been. Once they contact you they can turn back the clock as if no time has gone by.
  
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  Leaked 2018 Elders Training Video RE: Elders Reviewing Pionieers

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhq5viughny&feature=youtu.be.

  quite frankly im disturbed at the lack of love and compassion.

  especially for the first sister they talk about!.

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  Brother 1: "We need to remove her for coming up short on her hours. That reminds me, did we all get our 10 hours last month."

  Brother 1: "So sorry brothers but I had to take the kids to Disneyland. I came up short.

  Brother 2: "I was busy finishing the painting on our patio benches and came up short. So sorry brothers. It should be dry in a month and I'll be right back at it."

  Brother 3: "I too, I'm afraid, have come up short. I've been organizing my porn collection. I think another 3 months should suffice to put it in order."